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Wrexham drivers stuck in snarl-up are told: Just bear with us

Published date: 25 January 2012 |
Published by: Phil Robinson

 

RUSH-HOUR motorists facing more traffic misery in Wrexham have been told: “Sorry, but you’ll have to bear with us”.

As the Leader reported yesterday, a one-way system set up around roadworks outside Wrexham Maelor Hospital has caused mayhem along a nearby diversion
During the Monday morning and evening rush-hours, long queues built up on Bradley Road, Mold Road and Berse Road after Croesnewydd Road was made one-way.

Yesterday, there were similar chaotic scenes – especially in the morning – with drivers making their way into the town centre at one point forced to queue up on the A483 bypass.

Cllr Phil Wynn, who represents the Brynyffynnon ward which has been bearing the brunt of the congestion, said: “I sympathise with anyone caught in traffic but it is just unfortunate that a main road into town has to be resurfaced.

“I am told the tarmacing of the road outside the hospital main entrance will be finished later today (Tuesday) and they will then be starting on the stretch of road from the railway crossing to the River Gwenfro bridge.

“Hopefully, when it is finished early next week traffic patterns will return to normal.

“So, for now, the message to drivers is bear with us and if you can stagger your journey into town it might be worth doing that.”

Motorists have been venting their frustration on social networking websites.

One angry commuter, Justin Watson, posted: “Yesterday’s traffic problem repeated.

“Mold Road, Plas Coch, B&Q roundabout, Berse Road the tax office roundabout all gridlocked.”

And as the congestion spread to other main approach roads to the town, Dan Thornton wrote: “Never seen Ruthin Road so bad.”

John Bradbury, Wrexham Council’s head of environment, said of the work on Croesneywdd Road: “This is a major link in Wrexham and we are undertaking essential roadworks that can only be done in the daytime.

“It is inevitable there will be some inconvenience to motorists and we ask people to avoid the area if possible or to allow extra time for their journey.”

The one-way system was introduced after the work on Croesnewywdd Road caused gridlock when visitors and staff tried to leave the hospital car park at peak times.

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  1. Posted by: xlox154 at 17:17 on 25 January 2012 Report

    allow extra time for my journey? i leave a hour before im due in work and im still queuing for 50 mins because the traffic lights on ruthin road let two cars though at a time it would be a joke to leave any earlier

  2. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 17:51 on 25 January 2012 Report

    why cant they do it at night up to 10pm? OR even start at 9.30am when everyone has got to work/school/ college ect?

  3. Posted by: klingpin at 19:49 on 25 January 2012 Report

    @mfm103.4, why dont you go to work at night instead, that way you can have quieter roads for your commute to work.

  4. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 20:37 on 25 January 2012 Report

    or maybe i can join you on benefits.........

  5. Posted by: klingpin at 21:05 on 25 January 2012 Report

    @mfm how dare you assume im on benefits, im a worker who has to put up with fools and whingers like you moaning all the time!!!!

  6. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:21 on 25 January 2012 Report

    im a fool and a whinger, why? because i feel a little bit pissed of having to sit in traffic for an hour to get in to the town centre to go to work! So sorry for having an opinion at our poorly designed road system in Wrexham.And a council that doesn't give a ****!

  7. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:23 on 25 January 2012 Report

    oh and maybe if you have to ' put up with fools and whingers .... moaning all the time!!!!' perhaps you should change jobs or even get a job working nights where no one will be around... hey how about that..

  8. Posted by: klingpin at 21:31 on 25 January 2012 Report

    i do work nights and days, but unfortunately there are too many whingers about just like you to avoid no matter what time i work! and if your so pissed by a push bike.

  9. Posted by: JonJohn at 21:42 on 25 January 2012 Report

    John Bradbury, Wrexham Council’s head of environment, said, “It is inevitable there will be some inconvenience to motorists and we ask people to avoid the area if possible". I wonder what problems will arise from the new work on Croesneywdd Road due to start in March ? People are obviously unhappy with the continuing gridlocks in and around Wrexham, I too do not see any reason for the work not to be carried out at night, unless the workers refuse to do night work.

  10. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:44 on 25 January 2012 Report

    so the real fact is you hate your shite job and you have to work unsociable hours so your pissed off. glad we got to the bottom of it. Anyway your a 'whinger' about people being unhappy about the 'traffic misery' around wrexham as also reported in the Daily post.

  11. Posted by: klingpin at 21:46 on 25 January 2012 Report

    for one if the work was carried out at night the cost of paying workers would be about 4 times as much!

  12. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:50 on 25 January 2012 Report

    what about the work time lost to businesses due to people being late for work due to the road works. also costing and since when did wxm council care about wasting money??

  13. Posted by: JonJohn at 21:53 on 25 January 2012 Report

    klingpin, Hello. and the cost in lost revenue to shops and business's is not to be considered?, other towns do the work at night so that the town centres get the benefits, the way things are shaping up in Wrexham it will become a ghost town as business's move to more viable towns that are not clogged up with traffic for hours on end.

  14. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:56 on 25 January 2012 Report

    this is one of the main routes in to town and the only route to the hospital, it should be priority. The local economy sufferers due to grid lock , when WCBC want people to come to the town to spend - not sitting in traffic or just turn around and go somewhere else. Also we saw the story last week when a woman nearly gave birth in car due to the Road works and people stuck in the maelor car park for 2 hours.

  15. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 21:58 on 25 January 2012 Report

    there is never a good time for roadworks but better planning and perhaps some signs warning people. for instance on the A483 where people were sitting in tail backs in the inside lanes on both side of the carriage way, is this not a bit dangerous!?

  16. Posted by: klingpin at 22:09 on 25 January 2012 Report

    mfm, quite the opposite i love my job very much, the unsociable hours as you put it suit me very well, i get to go town in the middle of the afternoon when the roads are clear, i can go about my buisness when its all quiet, ive not said once i hate my job, all i said is i have to put up with whinging morons like you whether its 9am or 9pm!!!

  17. Posted by: klingpin at 22:13 on 25 January 2012 Report

    mfm, you seem to be doing all the moaning so perhaps its you whos sick of there 9-5 rat race to work every morning.

  18. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:15 on 25 January 2012 Report

    your boring me now child..........

  19. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:17 on 25 January 2012 Report

    i have no problem and expect increased traffic at rush hour periods, however the gridlock at the moment is unacceptable.

  20. Posted by: klingpin at 22:17 on 25 January 2012 Report

    if you were so bored you would not be sitting there waiting to retaliate so quickly with your hollow comments!

  21. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:20 on 25 January 2012 Report

    pot, kettle, black.........

  22. Posted by: klingpin at 22:23 on 25 January 2012 Report

    check my comments mate, not once have i mentioned being bored!!!!! you have but oh your still here!!!!! grow a brain.

  23. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:24 on 25 January 2012 Report

    i know you dont give a damn about people being late for work, school and hospital appointments because of you work hours dont take you in to the current morning chaos.

  24. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:27 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Have I? i was referring to your comment; 'you would not be sitting there waiting to retaliate so quickly with your hollow comments!' - which is exactly what your doing. You basically haven't said anything constructive at all except call me a moron and a whinger. the mention of the local economy went over your head.

  25. Posted by: klingpin at 22:33 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:15 on 25 January 2012 Report your boring me now child..........

  26. Posted by: klingpin at 22:34 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Posted by: klingpin at 22:17 on 25 January 2012 Report if you were so bored you would not be sitting there waiting to retaliate so quickly with your hollow comments!

  27. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:37 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Your pointless comments are boring me, not other input from other people. Basically you came here for an argument , you haven't commented on the story at all. Carry on insulting me, i find it quite funny, love keyboard warriors ;)

  28. Posted by: klingpin at 22:38 on 25 January 2012 Report

    dont want to start a debate about the local economy, as you can barely read my basic comments without getting muddled up! you start fabricating things ive not even said!

  29. Posted by: klingpin at 22:41 on 25 January 2012 Report

    i do beg to differ my friend, i merely asked why you dont work nights until the works are finished, then you fired an insult at me implying i was on benefits???? so i think your the warrior!

  30. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:41 on 25 January 2012 Report

    So what exactly are you posting here for ?? the story is about 'RUSH-HOUR motorists facing more traffic misery in Wrexham' . Your 'basic' comments (i agree yes very basic) are totally irrelevant to this story aren't they. lol

  31. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:44 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Oh yes i will go to my employer who operates during day time hours and ask them if i can come to work alone in to an empty building in the middle of the night? Are you actually for real?? Where the hell do you work! Marvellous solution to the 'RUSH-HOUR motorists facing more traffic misery in Wrexham' story.

  32. Posted by: JonJohn at 22:45 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Sorry people but this looks more like liberty1 and IMO. and to honest its become very boring. people have the right to comment without being called names, which is damaging your own credibility as commenter's, and it gives the forum a bad name, a place where you come to comment but get abused for your efforts. just a point of view from a fellow commenter.

  33. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:48 on 25 January 2012 Report

    Yes I agree. Im leaving it now, not point having a 'discussion' (term used loosely) with someone who has not interest or idea in the ACTUAL story.

  34. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:51 on 25 January 2012 Report

    NB : apologies for the mistakes im posting from my phone!

  35. Posted by: klingpin at 22:51 on 25 January 2012 Report

    tbh you started the insults, my original argument was why does everyone expect these road workers to work nights in these trecherous conditions, its cold enough in the day doing there type of job, but at this time of the year at night the weather gets a lot worse and temperatures drop well below freezing, coupled up with the fact its dark could lead to more working accidents, but no mfm wants to get to his nice warm office.

  36. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 22:55 on 25 January 2012 Report

    haha....................... good night

  37. Posted by: klingpin at 22:58 on 25 January 2012 Report

    jj, you are right my friend, my original post was meant to provoke a debate about people working nights! but as everyone can see i was insulted first, but also im just as guilty for carrying on the argument rather than getting back to the debate.

  38. Posted by: oh dear at 08:53 on 26 January 2012 Report

    the work should be done at night,when ever they do work on the bypass they always close it from 7pm to 5 am,so the roads are quieter and they cause minimal distruption,

  39. Posted by: Bornacorn at 11:50 on 26 January 2012 Report

    Night work is prohibitively expensive. The council would repair less roads and then people would complain the roads are terrible. Lose lose situation for the Council.

  40. Posted by: oh dear at 16:08 on 26 January 2012 Report

    it wouldnt cost a great deal more,plus as the location as outside a hospital live could be lost in the grid lock that happens when they are working during the day,at night there are less vehicles on the road so the ambulances would get through quicker

  41. Posted by: klingpin at 17:08 on 26 January 2012 Report

    @ oh dear, im not going to start an argument, but the costs would be extremely more if the works were carried out at night, for a start the wages of the men would be triple time for working at night, so if the job in question was asked to quoted for being done in night time hours you can bet the price would reflect that, so say a £200,000 job for normal working hours would now become a £600,000 job, that is a considerable jump in anyones books.

  42. Posted by: griffo at 18:53 on 26 January 2012 Report

    thankfully i don't use this route.it sounds like a nightmare.can the work be done 24/7 to get the job completed quicker.there will be inconveinance to someone what ever time they do the works.,but maybe if we felt the work was being done asap,we would be more tolerant.

  43. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:15 on 26 January 2012 Report

    jj, I agree with your comment, it does look like one of my verbal spates with IMO, right down to the foul lang which my opponent resorts to. I traveled through this part of town this morning, 9:05 am, and sailed through no probs, maybe I missed the worst of it.

  44. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:21 on 26 January 2012 Report

    People have mentioned the work being carried out at night, the cost needs to be taken into consideration but more so what about the residents and the hospital? You would soon have people who are on here now complaining about that.

  45. Posted by: klingpin at 20:38 on 26 January 2012 Report

    very good point lib, and glad you can see all the foul language used towards me!

  46. Posted by: griffo at 22:10 on 26 January 2012 Report

    liberty1-good point.its easy to forget the people who cant drive away from it.now that would drive you mad!

  47. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 13:03 on 28 January 2012 Report

    JonJohn: It seems liberty1 uses other user names... klingpinin in my honest opinion is liberty1....you hit the nail on the head.... nothing to say on the story.... as usual but still on the attack of anyone who does not see things his way... who sees the unemployed as leeches... even if they are pensioners.bet this post is removed as others have been by him.

  48. Posted by: klingpin at 18:31 on 28 January 2012 Report

    @ imo, nice of you to pop up with a pointless comment, but i can assure you we are 2 different people, so why dont you just go bore someone else with your politically motivated little rants!!!

  49. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 19:24 on 28 January 2012 Report

    Nothing politically motivated about my comment...just a point of view... as JonJohn pointed out... and its about time someone said it... but as I have proved before liberty1 cannot last more than a few days without attacking someone or there views... as has been seen again today in the bus cutbacks story.

  50. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:09 on 28 January 2012 Report

    IMO, you really are in a world of your own, so now I am supposed to be pretending to be different people, why would I bother to do that? As for public trans, what is wrong with people who have retired early on good lump sums and pensions paying their fair share? you really are a nutcase IMO.

  51. Posted by: oh dear at 20:59 on 28 January 2012 Report

    my god they figures quoted on here as an example are way off the mark,if you went by your figures then each man would be on 10k a night lol..if they are im in the wrong job

  52. Posted by: middleman at 23:19 on 29 January 2012 Report

    more idiot posts from inmyopinion he sees politics in everything, he as got a problem

  53. Posted by: InMyOpinion at 15:03 on 30 January 2012 Report

    middleman are you on drugs? where in my post have I made any political comment in this story?... I have not... you are obviously a little mixed upand seem to be posting the same in other items of news I have posted on... I suggest its you who has the problem. get a life.

  54. Posted by: middleman at 19:53 on 30 January 2012 Report

    I have a life you dont thats why u r on ere saying i take drugs, we alno u r pol motivated

  55. Posted by: ILOVECURRY at 20:11 on 30 January 2012 Report

    What is it with you lot? no matter what the subject you have to argue and throw insults, well I for one am fed up with reading you lot ranting on about your politics or insulting each other in one way or another, get over yourselves, go find another website to play your pointless games, I dont see why we should have to put up with you.

  56. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:01 on 30 January 2012 Report

    ILOVECURRY,"what is it with you lot","get over yourselves", to much sky tv I think, cant say I have read many of your interllectual comments on this website regards national/international affairs, to use a pun, if you dont like the heat then get out the kitchen, ps, make sure you shut the front door after you.

  57. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:03 on 30 January 2012 Report

    sorry, intellectual, not that you would have noticed.

  58. Posted by: ILOVECURRY at 21:47 on 30 January 2012 Report

    So speaks the voice of reason.

  59. Posted by: liberty1 at 22:27 on 30 January 2012 Report

    not so much the voice of reason more the voice of commonsense, dont try and box above your weight and you wont get caught out..

  60. Posted by: ILOVECURRY at 14:44 on 31 January 2012 Report

    No liberty1 more the voice of a bully, if anyone dare question you , you rarely discuss the thread of the story. you are a big mouth and a bully.but would you be so big if you were face to face with me? and im a woman.

  61. Posted by: ILOVECURRY at 15:00 on 31 January 2012 Report

    And I have been posting on here for years, but most of the time any story of substance has been taken over by you and IMO with your insult throwing, like JJ said. this used to be a decent forum set up by nwn but you want it all for yourselfs. BULLY is the right term to use for your sort.

  62. Posted by: liberty1 at 17:45 on 31 January 2012 Report

    The lady doth protest to much, methinks

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